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06-18-14 Town Council PacketsSNOWMASS VILLAGE TOWN COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA JUNE 18, 2014 ■, .- -� - I 4-Al 1114 1:4 0 - me 1 0 i CAN , CALL TO ORDER AT 4:00 P.M. Item No. 1: ROLL CALL Item No. 2: APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MAY 29 2014 . ............................... ...........................Page 2 Item No. 3: JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION — BASE VILLAGE PRE - SKETCH PLAN (Time: 120 Minutes) ............................. .............................No Packet Information Item No. 4: ADJOURNMENT NOTE: Total time estimated for meeting: Aaurox 2 hours ALL ITEMS AND TIMES ARE TENTATIVE AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE. PLEASE CALL THE OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK AT 923 -3777 ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING FOR ANY AGENDA CHANGES. 1 SNOWMASS VILLAGE TOWN COUNCIUPLANNING COMMISSION 2 SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES 3 MAY 29, 2014 4 5 CALL TO ORDER 4:02 P.M. 6 7 Mayor Boineau called to order the joint meeting of the Snowmass Town Council and the S Snowmass Planning Commission on Thursday, May 29th, at 4:02 p.m. 9 A complete live recording of this meeting can be found at www.tosv.com under Town 10 Council Meetings. This will be archived indefinitely allowing you to pull it up at any 11 time. 12 13 Item No. 1 ROLL CALL 14 15 16 17 COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Bill Boineau, Mayor, Markey Butler, Council Member, Jason Haber, Council Member, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Doug Faurer, Planning Commissioner, Donna Aiken, Planning Commissioner, Bob Sirkus, Planning Commissioner, Tom Goode, Planning Commissioner, Jim Gustafson, Planning Commissioner, and Patrick Keelty, Planning Commissioner. COUNCIL & PLANNING Fred Kucker, Council Member, Chris Jacobson, Council COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Member, and David Rachofsky, Planning Commissioner. STAFF PRESENT: John Dresser, Town Attorney David Peckler, Transit Director, Anne Martens, Public Works Director, Julie Ann Woods, Community Development Director, Sloan Campi, Planner, Jim Wahlstrom, Senior Planner, Beth Albert, Marketing Director, Andy Worline, Parks and Rec. Director, Kelly Vaughn, Communications Director, Brian Olson, Sergeant, Lara Xaiz, Police Officer, Barbara Peckler, Administrative Asst. PUBLIC PRESENT: Steve Alldredge, Craig Monzio, Nie Finley, David Kerr, Brian Mordela, John Borthwick, Stacey Kelly, Michael Manchester, Wayne Ethridge, Teddy Farrell, Tom Cardamone, Randall Bonr, Arnie Mordkin, Joe Krabacher, Jim Korpela, Andrew Light, Gary Hartman, Steve Parmelee, Jill Beathard, Tom Newland, Leticia Hanke, Jack Donovan, Madeline Osberger, David Corbin, Shawn Gleason, Johnny Henschel, Jay Israel, Scott Calliham, Thomas Fridstein, Scott Busser and other members of the Public interested in today's Agenda item. 06 -18 -14 TC Packet 2 05- 29 -14tc Minutes Page 2of5 18 19 Item No. 2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MAY 20 2014 20 Minutes were moved to the next Planning Commission meeting and Town Council meeting for 21 approval. 22 23 Item No. 3 JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION - BASE VILLAGE PRE - 24 SKETCH PLAN 25 26 Julie Ann Woods, Community Development Director gave the audience instructions on how to 27 proceed with the round table discussion. Four areas have been set up and each member of the 28 audience will have 15 minutes at each area. 29 Meeting paused for group discussions. 30 31 Meeting was restarted after the break out groups with the note taker from each group 32 summarizing the ideas. Summary follows: 33 34 Jim Wahlstrom, Senior Planner Topic 1 Residential /Commercial Mix Revision 35 MIX 36 ® Getting the mix right is critical: Different numbers suggested e.g.(80 wholly owned 37 condos and 20 vacation) 38 ® Difference between vacation club and timeshare related to: 39 o Fiscal performance 40 o Occupancy Rates 41 o Rental percentage 42 o Saturation point 43 ® Maintain flexibility of mix over time 44 • Timeshares are difficult to sell (club units were suggested) 45 o Is there demand for timeshares? 46 Timeshares have higher spending, and encourage return visitors who are loyal to a 47 brand 48 ECONOMICS 49 ® Occupancy impact in "off- season" 50 o Look at other resorts for successful year round vitality 51 o Timeshare /fractional ownership may force more people to stay in shoulder seasons 52 ® Effects on RETT and sales tax 53 • SAC's proposal is consistent with economic model. Need the right mix 54 o Diversification will help get heads on beds and is a good idea 55 o Desire for more hotel units 56 o Desire for more affordable price points, especially in the summer season 57 o Affordability for students and younger residents 58 o We already have enough "wholly owned condo" product 59 • Amenities are more important than the mix 60 o Make sure the public improvements match the proposal 61 Major brand presence is important 62 06 -18 -14 TC Packet 3 05- 29 -14tc Minutes Page 3 of 5 63 64 Sloan Campi, Planner- Topic 2: PhasingNesting 65 TRIGGERS 66 ® What are the triggers? 67 o "Givens" = roundabout, Wood Rd. improvements, and garage improvements 68 ® What happens to entitlements if zoning changes? 69 ® Key discussion category for Town Council and Planning Commission 70 ® Affordable housing: This could be an issue with new rules if the developer misses their 71 trigger 72 SECURITY 73 ® If triggers aren't built, how does the Town mitigate? What is the taxpayer impact? 74 ® Are there other mechanisms for the Town to obtain security if vesting is extended? 75 VESTING EXTENSION 76 ® Extend vesting because we need "certainty" for vitality 77 o Important to understand who will be working with the Town over the long -term 78 • Does Related walk away if vesting is not extended? 79 • Rather than impose penalties, focus on working with the developer to finish the 80 development 81 82 Julie Ann Woods, Community Development Director -Topic 3: Transportation 83 PARKING 84 ® Reducing parking .75 -1 from .5 -1 (which is what SAC is proposing) 85 o We could create additional public parking if the Town reduces the required parking ratio for 86 PUD approval 87 o Overall, could we have less parking? Last summer never exceeded .5 88 o Overall, how do the changes in mix impact parking? E.g. with the vacation club and fractional 89 units? 90 ® Reconfigure parking 91 o New allocation for existing, and reducing parking for new buildings 92 o Residential: Would the requirement remain 1 space per bedroom? This could be too low 93 especially when considering vehicles for guests 94 Summer is traditionally a drive in market, while winter is typically a fly in market. This 95 should be taken into account with parking 96 o Can parking rules and regulations correspondent with the season? Or be adjusted? 97 • Maintain enough parking to encourage people to use Base Village as a launch pad for 98 "day trips "' 99 ® Parking analysis critical to make a decision 100 ® Private parking space is underutilized 101 102 ACCESS 103 ® Access from /to Base Village to the Center from the Viceroy is challenging 104 ® Arrival center should present an improved arrival experience 105 o No `front door' and people are confused where to go 106 ® Transportation is a challenge for the elderly 107 ® Need more data on access for individuals with disabilities 108 o Concerns over access to the clinic 109 ® Family- friendly access is needed 110 ® Get more people onto the mountain, make it easier to get through Base Village 111 o With current layout, a long walk is required: create closer access to the mountain 06 -18 -14 TC Packet 4 05- 29 -14tc Minutes Page 4 of 5 112 113 OTHER 114 ® "After hours" transportation needed 115 ® Property shuttles are being invested in by individual lodges. This may be a similar model 116 in Base Village (including vans from Aspen) 117 ® Encourage visitors to use public transportation "Be a local -take transit" 118 o Parking in Aspen is challenging also, Snowmass is not unique 119 o Guests may not be used to traveling on our roads in winter 120 0 Focus on trail -to- transit connections 121 ® Transit center needs improvements 122 How Base Village parking interacts with Village mall parking needs to be considered 123 124 Lara Xaiz, Police Officer -Topic 4: Community Purposes /Aquatic Center 125 AQUATIC CENTER 126 No longer needed because of the Recreation Center (this was overwhelmingly 127 supported by participants 128 o If it is in Base Village, it should be smaller 129 o Other viewpoint that Recreation Center is not adequate. And, would locals use it if it's 130 packed with tourists? 131 o Overall, a new pool is not a community need. It is a visitor need. 132 Concern /lack of understanding in regards to operations /economic model of proposed 133 Aquatic Center 134 o Too expensive 135 137 ® Discovery Center 138 • Performance -Based Area 139 o Stage, seating, outdoor space 140 o May help with vitality 141 o Not on scale with Thursday Night Concerts 142 Skating (ice rink or roller rink and build around it like Beaver Creek), Mini Golf, Activities 143 for Teens 144 o Publicly or privately run 145 ® Library 146 ® Open area for kids where parents can watch /visit, have coffee with fountains and /or 147 playgrounds 148 ® Need a reason to go there 149 ® Community Arts /music: expansion of programs 150 ® Desires clarification on tax dollar implications: Who owns and runs these facilities? 151 ® All sports facility /year round training (like a Woodward Center) 152 o Ogden UT /Salomon Center: restaurants and simulated skydiving 153 ® Movie theatre 154 ® Conference Center 155 o One -stop shopping for conference attendees 156 ® Indoor /outdoor space with small performing area 157 ® Alpine Slide 158 ® Encourage night -life 159 ® Appeal to young families (like Glenwood Adventure Park) 160 • Transportation ideas should be included as community purposes 06 -18 -14 TC Packet 5 05- 29 -14tc Minutes Page 5 of 5 161 Softer more natural elements to prevent an urban feel, and keep design in synch with 162 our rural character 163 164 Time allotted for public Comment- None 165 166 Snowmass Town Council and Planning Commission made comments on the information 167 derived from the meeting. Council Member Haber was encouraged by the public participation 168 and the questions they raised, noting they will be helpful when the discussion gets into more 169 detail. Haber would also like to see how the Developer's new plans serve the current Town 170 Comprehensive Plan. Mayor Boineau would like to see a road map of actual starting dates with 171 no more delays. 172 Romero agrees that a series of milestones need to be set with guaranteed starts. 173 174 Julie Ann Woods, Community Development Director wrapped up the meeting with a few 175 announcements. 176 ® The online comments will remain open and encouraged the public to use the web site if 177 they had any more comments. 178 ® The final third meeting has not been scheduled yet but look for emails and 179 announcements in paper, hopefully in next couple of weeks. 180 ® Format for the final meeting will be Snowmass Acquisition Company will address 181 questions raised in the first two forums and may present a possible economic analysis. 182 183 Romero would like the ultimate goal to be achieving enough consensus to move forward with 184 the frame work established. 185 186 Item No. 4 ADJOURNMENT 187 188 Markey Butler made the motion to adjourn the meeting. 189 Bill Boineau seconded the motion. The motion was approved by a vote of 9 in favor to 0 190 opposed. 191 192 Voting Aye: Bill Boineau- Mayor, Markey Butler, Council Member, Jason Haber, Council 193 Member, Doug Faurer, Planning Commissioner, Donna Aiken, Planning Commissioner, Bob 194 Sirkus, Planning Commissioner, Tom Goode, Planning Commissioner, Jim Gustafson, Planning 195 Commissioner, and Patrick Keelty, Planning Commissioner. 196 197 Voting Nay: None. 198 Meeting adjourned at 6:15 p.m. 199 Submitted By, 200 201 202 Barbara Peckler, Admin Assistant 203 06- 18 -14TC Packet 6